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?dude? - oafbot - 07-17-2004

So how

come there are so many Japanese text encoding formats around?

I mean: JIS, Shift Jis, Shift Jis X0213,

EUC, ISO 2022-JP, and then there's UNICODE...wassup with this shite!!

Do any of you know if

any one of these is standard? How can I best avoid MOJIBAKE (when others try to read my stuff)?


running OS X 10.3 is there a default encoding that "Kotoeri" uses (mac users will know WTF i'm

talking about)... what's the default on Japanese Windows? or does it vary?

?dude? - oafbot - 07-17-2004


for example, on the previous post I tried to title it :




but it didn't appear.

?dude? - Nez - 07-17-2004

Whenever I write Japanese on the forum (I'm a Mac user by the way), I use <a

href='' target='_blank'>Camino</a>. Mozilla also works but I think

that Camino is the better browser for OS X.

Most of the time I use Safari but it doesn't input

Japanese well. <img src='<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' />

?dude? - oafbot - 07-17-2004

I totally

used to use Camino... thats a pimpin' browser.

despite apple's pronouncements, I think its a

little faster than Safari.

I pretty much use Safari these days, since upgrading to 10.3 from


I should give old CAMINO a try sometime. Does it handle that issue better?

how about windows

users though, do they have mojibake problems? especially when cross platform messaging?

?dude? - Nez - 07-17-2004


Windows XP has little problem with Japanese input. At least that's my observation with Internet Explorer and


I once used Camino all the time but since Safari has spell check, it's hard to switch back

to Camino. I currently only use Camino for browsing Yahoo Groups and for inputting Japanese on the web. Camino

will solve all your Japanese input problems because it handles text fields differently to Safari.

?dude? - gen - 07-19-2004

Camino's going to have a hard time keeping up with both Safari and Firefox.

that said, I have no

issues on 10.3.4.


I think the key is to set your browser to unicode first, and then it

should have no problems. When you input unicode while you are still in your non-Unicode setting, then I think

there are problems?

?dude? - Nez - 07-19-2004


to say this Gen but your Japanese is appearing as bakemoji. <img src='<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Sad' />

?dude? - oafbot - 07-19-2004



I'm with NEZ on this one.

bakemoji all the way until I set the text encoding to view Unicode


then I got NIHONGO.

?dude? - oafbot - 07-19-2004

OK OK the

whole reason I started this thread is because I was wondering if people want to do some Japanese posts, but I

wanted to figure out if there was a standard encoding that most people used with the greatest amount of


anyways I sort of am stuck as to what to post as a topic... but also it seems a little

anti-democratic to be posting stuff in Japanese only... seeing as how not everybody will be able to

participate... what do you think? <img src='<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':blink:' />

?dude? - Nez - 07-19-2004


have been various attempts to start Japanese threads in the past but the simple fact of the matter is that there

are only a handful of members that can write Japanese at an acceptable level. I don't think anyone would

complain about a Japanese thread too much because we trust nobody's going to be bitching about each other in

Japanese. <img src='<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' />

As for posting Japanese, just use

Camino and you'll have nothing to worry about.