?dude?

[oafbot]

So how



come there are so many Japanese text encoding formats around?



I mean: JIS, Shift Jis, Shift Jis X0213,



EUC, ISO 2022-JP, and then there's UNICODE...wassup with this shite!!



Do any of you know if



any one of these is standard? How can I best avoid MOJIBAKE (when others try to read my stuff)?



I'm



running OS X 10.3 is there a default encoding that "Kotoeri" uses (mac users will know WTF i'm



talking about)... what's the default on Japanese Windows? or does it vary?

[oafbot]

hmmm...

for example, on the previous post I tried to title it :



•¶Žš‰»‚¯DDDdude?



mojibake...



dude?



but it didn't appear.

[Nez]

Whenever I write Japanese on the forum (I'm a Mac user by the way), I use <a



href='http://www.mozilla.org/projects/camino/' target='_blank'>Camino</a>. Mozilla also works but I think



that Camino is the better browser for OS X.



Most of the time I use Safari but it doesn't input



Japanese well. <img src='http://www.halvsie.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

[oafbot]

I totally



used to use Camino... thats a pimpin' browser.



despite apple's pronouncements, I think its a



little faster than Safari.



I pretty much use Safari these days, since upgrading to 10.3 from



10.1.



I should give old CAMINO a try sometime. Does it handle that issue better?



how about windows



users though, do they have mojibake problems? especially when cross platform messaging?

[Nez]

Amazingly,



Windows XP has little problem with Japanese input. At least that's my observation with Internet Explorer and



Mozilla.



I once used Camino all the time but since Safari has spell check, it's hard to switch back



to Camino. I currently only use Camino for browsing Yahoo Groups and for inputting Japanese on the web. Camino



will solve all your Japanese input problems because it handles text fields differently to Safari.

[gen]

Camino's going to have a hard time keeping up with both Safari and Firefox.



that said, I have no



issues on 10.3.4.



日本語



I think the key is to set your browser to unicode first, and then it



should have no problems. When you input unicode while you are still in your non-Unicode setting, then I think



there are problems?

[Nez]

Sorry



to say this Gen but your Japanese is appearing as bakemoji. <img src='http://www.halvsie.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

[oafbot]

hey



Gen,

I'm with NEZ on this one.

bakemoji all the way until I set the text encoding to view Unicode



UTF-8...



then I got NIHONGO.

[oafbot]

OK OK the



whole reason I started this thread is because I was wondering if people want to do some Japanese posts, but I



wanted to figure out if there was a standard encoding that most people used with the greatest amount of



success.



anyways I sort of am stuck as to what to post as a topic... but also it seems a little



anti-democratic to be posting stuff in Japanese only... seeing as how not everybody will be able to



participate... what do you think? <img src='http://www.halvsie.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':blink:' />

[Nez]

There



have been various attempts to start Japanese threads in the past but the simple fact of the matter is that there



are only a handful of members that can write Japanese at an acceptable level. I don't think anyone would



complain about a Japanese thread too much because we trust nobody's going to be bitching about each other in



Japanese. <img src='http://www.halvsie.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />



As for posting Japanese, just use



Camino and you'll have nothing to worry about.