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Nihongo On Western Computers
#1
Konbanwa,



Here are two questions I've been thinking of a lot, and now that I found this site (yay!) Im posing them here:



What programs do you use to read/write emails in japanese?

How do you enter text in search fields in japanese web sites?



Since I have to make life hard on myself, I use Gentoo linux mostly (I have installed windows on my girlfriends computer...) and I managed to fix my email client (mutt) and my text-editor (emacs) to read/write japanese. But one day I'm gonna need to learn how to do it on a windows box.



Is it easy? Has anyone had problems?



/mattias
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#2
I am a Gentoo User too <img src='http://www.halvsie.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='B)' />



I do not know Japanese very well so I do not know what I can tell you.



vi rocks, emacs sucks!!! <img src='http://www.halvsie.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />
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#3
And I'm a MacOSX user which comes with Unicode and makes everything a dream. I think newer windows OS have Japanese as a customizable feature. That should help.



My brother might know the answer to this question I'll ask.



Moriji might know the answer to this. Moriji?



My questions is does anyone know a Japanese translation of this Invision Board script?



Saren
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#4
We use IME on our computers, It's already built into XP all you need to do is configure it. Check this link for more info : [url="http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/handson/user/IME_Paper.mspx#winxp"]IME info[/url]
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#5
Whoops, I guess I should have read the question more closely.



Overseas I had to use Russian, Kazakh, and English with Windows and I roughly remember how I added them to my computer.



You should go to the Control Panel and find keyboard. If I remember right, you can add Japanese as one of the languages. After you hit apply, a blue box with EN should appear on the bottom right task bar. To type in Japanese, you should just hit the box and select Japanese (I am doing this from memory but the above should be a good guideline).



Now you probably will not know which English letters to use for the representative Japanese character. I cheated and just typed out a keyboard layout using Word with the matching letter/character combination. Some people print them out on sticky paper so they can put the characters on the keyboard. Or you can just buy a Japanese language keyboard which tends to have both the Japanese characters and English letters. That is what I used in the Internet Cafes when I visited Japan in 2002.
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[quote name='kevmille' date='Jan 1 2004, 08:24 PM']vi rocks, emacs sucks!!! <img src='http://www.halvsie.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' /> [/quote]

heh. do we dare poison this forum with a vi/emacs discussion?



(geek-warning)

I use vi for changing small scripts etc. I use emacs for larger projects, writing email, accessing the shell, reading man pages, writing in japanese, writing fun elisp scripts, etc.



I really like vi since its really very very quick, I like its integration with less/more, and its so easy to edit existing code. But somehow I find it a little clumsy when it comes to larger projects.



Enter emacs. I love all the little built-in functions, I couldnt survive without the rectangle commands.



Most of my friends are either/or people. Im a haafu even in the emacs/vi debate <img src='http://www.halvsie.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' />

(/geek-warning)
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[quote name='fimblo' date='Jan 3 2004, 04:26 PM'][quote name='kevmille' date='Jan 1 2004, 08:24 PM'] vi rocks, emacs sucks!!! <img src='http://www.halvsie.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' /> [/quote]

heh. do we dare poison this forum with a vi/emacs discussion?



(geek-warning)

I use vi for changing small scripts etc. I use emacs for larger projects, writing email, accessing the shell, reading man pages, writing in japanese, writing fun elisp scripts, etc.



I really like vi since its really very very quick, I like its integration with less/more, and its so easy to edit existing code. But somehow I find it a little clumsy when it comes to larger projects.



Enter emacs. I love all the little built-in functions, I couldnt survive without the rectangle commands.



Most of my friends are either/or people. Im a haafu even in the emacs/vi debate <img src='http://www.halvsie.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' />

(/geek-warning) [/quote]

Well, umm (swallows pride), I use pico as my main text editor when I need to work with my two web accounts online. I use nano and kwrite when I work on my Gentoo box.



I actually need to learn vi b/c pico/nano does not cut it for me. I have been just lazy to learn vi. I have used PINE since the early 90s so pico is just very familiar to me.



I know what you are going to say in regards to learning vi, "RTFM."



I will.
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#8
*smile*



This discussion belongs in the gentoo forums <img src='http://www.halvsie.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' />



Once I was on a unix system where I couldnt find vi, pico, emacs, mh, not even ed. I had to write a little startup script with cat... not so fun, when I misswrote something on the last line <img src='http://www.halvsie.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' />
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Gentoo Forums <img src='http://www.halvsie.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' /> You know, they have some interesting threads there. I started one in September proving that a non-Geek can be a Gentoo user. Big mistake. Never was called a Geek so many times before in my life <img src='http://www.halvsie.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dry.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<_<' />



Oh, by the way, I convinced a Gentoo user to join the US Marines instead of the Army. Only at Gentoo can someone do that <img src='http://www.halvsie.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Rolleyes' />



It is just nice to see another Halvsie using Gentoo.



By the way, have you started using the stable 2.6 kernel yet? I always ask this question.
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[quote name='kevmille' date='Jan 4 2004, 08:29 PM']By the way, have you started using the stable 2.6 kernel yet? I always ask this question.[/quote]

Code:
fimblo@waoh:~> uname -a

Linux waoh 2.4.20-gentoo-r9 #2 Sat Dec 13 01:39:01 CET 2003 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Mobile CPU      1200MHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux



I'd like to try some newer kernel, like the 2.6 one, but I just dont have time just now to fiddle with my boxes. Maybe after my course has started <img src='http://www.halvsie.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' />
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Code:
Linux romulan 2.6.0 #1 SMP Fri Jan 2 11:40:56 PST 2004 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Mobile CPU      1000MHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux



Yeah, I understand. It took me two days to get the 2.6 kernel tweaked out before I got a working .config. Many, many kernal panics. Once you do get it working, it is awesome. Your Pentium III computer will think it is a Mac <img src='http://www.halvsie.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink2.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Wink' />
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#12
If you

have XP pro, you can get something called the MUI (multi-language user interface) It makes an English PC look

and feel EXACTLY like a Japanese PC. I use it at work and no-one can tell the difference.
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id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you have XP pro, you can get something called the MUI (multi-language user

interface) It makes an English PC look and feel EXACTLY like a Japanese PC. I use it at work and no-one can

tell the difference. [/quote]


[Image: smile.gif] XP Pro works...but you will also need XP

office (Professional edition). The standard office edition only allows you to read languages that use english

type text such as French, German, Spanish, etc.
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#14
There is

also a MUI for Office 2000, Office XP and Office 2003. It will turn English office into Japanese office and you

can switch the language any time like...let me know if yo need it I can give you a copy...I think I have XP and

2003 only though.
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