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I recently came back from a year in Tokyo, and have a small itching feeling of regret. No doubt that I had an amazing time there, filling my life with wonderful memories I never will forget, but still... The Japanese side of my family are all from Kansai, and everyone were shocked when I announced that I was going to Tokyo.



The thing everyone said was pretty much: "Tokyo?? You know that people from Tokyo are cold and doesen't have any sense of humour right? Besides, the food tastes like shit.". The thing is that I found a great school in Tokyo with a very low ammount of english speaking students, in other words perfect for being forced to learn japanese faster. I went to Tokyo and my grandmother called me "aho".



[size="5"]Anyway, [/size][size="2"]I found most of my preconceptions about Tokyo to be true. The food was not as good as in Kansai, most people were distant and boring, many gaijin were there with the wrong reasons etc. .[/size]

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[size="2"]Do you fellow Halvsies feel differently about either Kanto and Kansai? Can one be generally favoured or is it a question of personal likes and dislikes?[/size]
i havent lived in Kansai so I wouldnt know.. I am a Tokyo child and i have to say i have met some very open and nice and funny people..but then again, i have met warm, happy, funny Kansai-iotes so... i think its also up to you and how open YOU are and how funny or welcoming YOU are...

dunno..



i have noticed though through my quick trips to Kyoto/Osaka/Nagoya that things to feel a bit less hectic than in Tokyo
I got the impression that people in Tokyo appear interested, but never letting you close enough to get to know them for real. It could have been because they assumed that a Halvsie like myself was going to eventually leave Japan, thus not being worth the emotional investment. But still! It is a crap reason! [Image: thumbdown.gif]



I went to Kansai during a holiday, and when I met people while going out I felt a completely different atmosphere. They approached me because they wanted to get to know me, and not like they were looking at some interesting animal from a land far away.



Still, I have to point out that I love Tokyo for many many reasons [Image: wink.gif] If I can get cheap tickets I may go there this fall!
It's been so long since I've been back to Japan that I first thought of the Kanto region in Pokemon ...
@Ayuki



Haha, that is such a gamer-thing to say XD



I still feel kinda stupid for having those preconceptions... So I hope someone will prove me wrong!
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@Ayuki



Haha, that is such a gamer-thing to say XD



I still feel kinda stupid for having those preconceptions... So I hope someone will prove me wrong!

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What preconceptions are those?
@Ayuki



I have a picture that Tokyo-ites are quite cold and afraid of people. No absurd jokes (even while intoxicated), always very reserved, wearing anonymous expressionless masks whenever in public, shying contact with people they don't know etc. The atmosphere in the Kansai-area that I have spent time felt different. People are a bit more loud and happy there. Doesn't care as much about how they are percieved, have more physical contact with you while interacting, gesturing more, breaking silence with random funny stories etc.



Is it just me having this idea?
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@Ayuki



I have a picture that Tokyo-ites are quite cold and afraid of people. No absurd jokes (even while intoxicated), always very reserved, wearing anonymous expressionless masks whenever in public, shying contact with people they don't know etc. The atmosphere in the Kansai-area that I have spent time felt different. People are a bit more loud and happy there. Doesn't care as much about how they are percieved, have more physical contact with you while interacting, gesturing more, breaking silence with random funny stories etc.



Is it just me having this idea?

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It actually sounds like you're describing me <img src='http://www.halvsie.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ph34r.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':ph34r:' /> , but I'm not cold ... just reserved and somewhat shy. Also people here are not always very friendly. When I do say hi or smile, some people seem to think it's odd. I DO make jokes, though. I just tend to be more comfortable around close friends. Once I warm up to someone, though, I'm more my normal self. I have to admit, though, I'm not crazy about crowds.
What happens if you attend a Halvsie meetup? (I would be all over the place talking to EVERYONE! <img src='http://www.halvsie.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Tongue' />)
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What happens if you attend a Halvsie meetup? (I would be all over the place talking to EVERYONE! <img src='http://www.halvsie.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Tongue' />)

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I wouldn't be silent or anything. I just know who I am, and who I am is shy but not so shy that I won't speak.
@Ayuki



Ok! Are you uncomfortable around extremely outgoing persons or just comfortable not putting everything on the table instantly?





Oh and food!! Not just people, I found the general food culture in Tokyo to be very different from Kansai food. For example the use of mayonaise everywhere, salty broths, fastfood being more "western" etc. What do you guys prefer?
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@Ayuki



Ok! Are you uncomfortable around extremely outgoing persons or just comfortable not putting everything on the table instantly?





Oh and food!! Not just people, I found the general food culture in Tokyo to be very different from Kansai food. For example the use of mayonaise everywhere, salty broths, fastfood being more "western" etc. What do you guys prefer?

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I would say the second one. If I was uncomfortable around outgoing people, I wouldn't be with who I'm with now. I wouldn't say he's an extreme, but he loves to talk to people. It's nice, actually. I'd like to be more like that.



I like mayonnaise myself, but I do prefer more traditional Japanese foods.
What about Takoyaki? Do you like it best with mayo+sauce or broth?
i havent noticed the overuse of mayo in Tokyo... although I love qupiee!!

I am happy to tell you that although there are differences between tokyo/Kanto and Kansai, you are wrong..there are many many open and friendly and warm Japanese in Tokyo!
Is it true that there are more/funnier comedians from Kansai than Kanto?
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i havent noticed the overuse of mayo in Tokyo... although I love qupiee!!

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Ohhh, I know what you're talking about. I love that mayo, too.



An episode of Bizarre Foods featured a Japanese restaurant that puts mayo in everything ... even milkshakes.
Whoa! Mayo-shake? I guess if they have wasabi ice cream, mayo makes sense [Image: ohmy.gif]
I love kewpie as well. but Mayo-shake sounds absolutely revolting..<img src='http://www.halvsie.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/crazy.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':crazy:' />
But what about humour? I have never met anyone in Tokyo with balls-to-the-walls funny outgoing humour. The joking in Tokyo seems very "safe" if you know what I mean. Maybe it is hard comparing humour in Kanto and Kansai since Kansai is pretty much most well known for it's humour, but still. Did I just not understand the jokes in Tokyo?
@greenhorn...well..SHimura-ken is from Kansai right?? well i know that in general there are more comedians from Southern Japan than Tokyo or Northern Japan...maybe there is a difference... but i havent noticed it myself since well..i havent been that many times to Osaka or around and havent lived there to tell the difference. Its true though that through my work I meet lots of people from Osaka and as business people, as more "Relaxed" than Tokyo businessmen.. but this go for every country..people not living in the Capital (even if they live in a very very big city) are more relaxed and probably "Afford" being a bit more funny...



but.. as i have said before... I have met many Tokyo people in my 35 years and many of them were very open and funny... but maybe that's because I could not be around not warm, funny people...
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